Friday, February 26, 2010

Henny Penny, The Sky is Falling...


"Town officials are essentially leading you into a merger that will have you stepping over dollars to save pennies"
"...there is serious danger in putting your eggs in one basket".
"...your cell phone bill is proposed to be increased by 30 cents a month per phone"
"There is much misinformation being presented."
"Will Oneida County be able to handle the increased workload without reducing quality of service? Absolutely not..."
"Contrary to the figures that are being publicized..."

The sky is NOT falling...the paid advertisement placed in today's Observer Dispatch is an insult to the intelligence of New Hartford taxpayers as well as an insult to the capabilities of the County 911 Dispatchers. How arrogant!

We will have more to say in our next blog!

31 comments:

Anonymous said...

You should start looking into the laws on using that “Town of New Hartford Central Dispatch” patch on your nice Hen there. I believe there may be a law somewhere about that or did your pal Pattsie give you permission.

Anonymous said...

I know it's way too much information but my morning flush coincided with the moment I finished reading the "gloom and doom" scenario. How pathetic.

Anonymous said...

So how many hundreds of thousands of dollars will the dispatch union say it will cost to answer the phones for the highway dept, dog warden, NHPD Family and Friends members when they get rid of the dispatch center?

New Hartford, N.Y. Online said...

Anonymous #1,

Thank you for the heads up.

Unfortunately, it came too late. Henny Penny was just carted away in handcuffs for impersonating a dispatcher!

Anonymous said...

i respect concerned citizens right to think however they want on the issues...but i am appalled at the downright venom you guys have for any person who has a thought outside of the preapproved script from you headquarters. Let people make up their own minds, why all the hatred and insults? It really hurts your credibility.

New Hartford, N.Y. Online said...

There's no venom; we merely state the facts. However, we respect your right to think as you like and to read into our blogs as you wish.

A simple mind said...

The paid advertisement is so distorted it makes me want to puke. I wonder if these same people would even be qualified to be hired by Burger King? I know they are hiring because I saw the sign out on Seneca Turnpike.

These people whoever they are should be ashamed of themselves for misleading the public.

Concerned Citizens, I am proud for the work you do...informing the public as to the truth in these matters.

Keep up the great work!

Anonymous said...

Anonymous # 1 says it's you CC folks that are using scare tactics. What did the Dispatchers or Police do to you anyway? Why do you hate so much? What is wrong with people doing a good job and trying to keep it? Have you no compassion? Some are working paycheck to paycheck and soon stand to be out of a job or lose a lot of money if transferred to Oneida County. Dispatchers have to pay taxes too and they have families to feed. How much will it cost the Town when I’m on unemployment? Oh and yes in case you haven’t figured it out I am a Public Safety Telecommunicator and I’m not a friend or Family person unless you count the close relationship I have with my co-workers and the Police.

New Hartford, N.Y. Online said...

No one has said that NH Dispatchers are not doing a good job. No one is using scare tactics...no one except the dispatchers, firemen and police.

People in the private sector lose their jobs everyday; many of those people have been with their company for years, but still they are let go when the company is no longer profitable, or new owners take over, etc. Unfortunately job cuts are a part of the declining economy.

We are truly sorry if anyone is not able to find a new job with Oneida County 911, but the town can no longer afford to pay people just because people will lose a job if we don't maintain a separate dispatch center.

Time to put your big boy pants on; accept the inevitable and keep the professionalism of the NH Dispatch alive by working to make the move toward consolidation a smooth transition. Some, if not all, full-time dispatchers will probably have an opportunity to work for Oneida County 911.

Frankly, with the way some people are acting, we wouldn't blame Oneida County if they don't hire NH Dispatchers. Think about it...

New Hartford, N.Y. Online said...

p.s. Don't talk to me about lack of compassion.

My husband lost two jobs due to downsizing (both jobs were with local banks...banks used to be stable employment).

We didn't take out a quarter page ad in the Observer Dispatch using scare tactics to try and get his job back. People just have to pick up and look for other employment...and attitude has a lot to do with a company's willingness to hire you.

We are not using scare tactics...we are merely stating facts. Facts, that you don't want to hear because they don't support your case.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous #8... (Anonymous #2 here)

I apologize for my levity because I don't wish it upon anyone to lose their livelihood. If you're a NH resident you have to admit the Town needs to head in a different direction if we want to be able to afford living here in the future. I'm sorry your job is in jeopardy and hopefully you'll be picked up by the County when the time comes but these cuts are long overdue. Good luck.

Anonymous said...

Sometimes what you guys reflect as "facts" are opinionated and frankly as skewed as any one side. I'm not throwing stones by any means. Nor do i wanna start a word battle flame war. We all care for our community. But sometimes it seems all CC wants to do is sytematically dismantle the Town back to pre-colonial days. No services, no pub-saf protection, no roads plowed, no nothing. is there anything you do like? do you have anything at all nice to say about anything in our town? Is anybody in this Town worth a hoot to you?...even if hey dont think like you guys do on the issues?

New Hartford, N.Y. Online said...

I think we have been very positive about Pat Tyksinksi and the effort he has made to bring the town back to its senses. As far as facts, we always back them up with documentation...kind of hard to dispute documents obtained directly from the town.

Everyone always has the option of not reading...

Anonymous said...

Dear Anonymous Dispatcher,
I have learned that people only care about themselves. Nobody cared when I lost my job, I didn't take out an ad , I didn't give up. I kept going and it worked out for the best. Quit crying and learn to move on. This is the way of our dire economic crisis. When one door closes you have to open a few more. The Town is hurting due to mis-management and overspending. We all have families, no one cared about mine and quite frankly I don't care about yours.

Venus said...

The Town of New Hartford 911 Dispatchers lost their credibility, if they ever had any, to the two ads placed in the Friday and Saturday edition of the Utica Observer Disgrace (oops...I meant Dispatch).

These same people I have read were part of a plot together with the New Hartford Police Commission to discredit Concerned Citizens for Honest & Open Government.

I would ask any Dispatch person or police officer to provide one, only one example where CCHOG was wrong in their blogging material. You cannot because the TRUTH was printed from the documents obtained from the town officials who plundered during the period of January 1, 2006 thru December 31, 2009.

If anyone deserves to be bashed it is Earle Reed, Robert Payne, Roger Cleveland and a few others who continued to spend hard-earned taxpayer dollars on a whim or for personal favors owed to the owner of the New Hartford Business Park and most importantly the Town's Republican Party and list of cronies who were led by Jerry Green, Republican Chairman - Town of New Hartford.

These are the people who need to be blamed.

The newly elected town supervisor, Patrick Tyksinski has exhibited strong character and leadership. This is a quality that has not been found in local politics for an awful long time.

I wish Supervisor Tyksinski well in his endeavors and to hold firm to his convictions on taking the Town off life support and bringing back a beautiful town - back to life. If anyone can do it, Mr. T. can! And this guy does not have gold chains around his neck.

Anonymous said...

The dispatch crew along with the police department have had the rug (aka unlimited $$$$) pulled out from under them.

I can see it now: The union is going to file grievances, full page ads will be taken out, NHPD will have a sit-in at Marquee Cinemas.

Face the facts, your town doesn't have the money. Not much else you can do. Just like any responsible person, you cut where you can cut.

Will the last one out of NH, remember to turn off the lights please.

Anonymous said...

Has anyone asked how many of our police and dispatch employees actually live in the Town of New Hartford ? They want raises and cry when their jobs are in jeopardy but how many of them pay taxes here ?

Anonymous said...

I don't think they get it. 911 is moving to OC, and they can either kick and scream, or they can go and try to cut the best deal they can. I don't think the kicking and screaming method is going to get them anywhere. Those that kick and scream the worst ... might end up with some different job skills, ones in which they might have to put on a smile while saying...

"Would you like an apple pie with that?"

Anonymous said...

I can see it now ... Paid Ad by New Hartford Police Officers. Paid Ad by the Trustees of New Hartford Town Library. Paid Ad by The New Hartford Highway Dept. Employees.

Keep the ball rolling Pat, the residents I spoke with are behind you 100%.

MadSpartan said...

It's time for the public sector to be commensurate with the private sector in regard to downsizing. No longer can we afford the excesses of the past. This is not about hating any particular group. It's purely elementary economics. The tax payers will not be taken in by all the apocalyptic clamoring.

Money Penny said...

I like my "eggs" shaken not stirred.

James Bond wanted me to write to defend my niece.

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot said...

"My husband lost two jobs due to downsizing. We didn't take out a quarter page ad in the Observer Dispatch using scare tactics to try and get his job back. People just have to pick up and look for other employment...and attitude has a lot to do with a company's willingness to hire you."

Thanks for the advice Cath,
But I have a Mom and we are not you. Everybody is different and they react to things in their own way. The ad in the paper is the truth as we see it not the way you see it. People are allowed to have viewpoints and we do not agree with yours, and never have.

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot said...

"Nobody cared when I lost my job, I didn't take out an ad , I didn't give up. I kept going and it worked out for the best. Quit crying and learn to move on. When one door closes you have to open a few more."

My Hero (Rocky Theme in Background)

New Hartford, N.Y. Online said...

You are certainly free to have your own opinion, but as evidenced by the comments on the OD and here, you are looking very unprofessional and self-serving. Take it for what it's worth!

The consolidation will happen; you can either embrace it or continue to act like spoiled brats...your choice.

New Hartford, N.Y. Online said...

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot said:

Everybody is different and they react to things in their own way.

True Whiskey, but men have to grow up sometimes too. Accepting that which you cannot change without having a hissy fit is one way of showing you are an adult.

Let I keep saying...give us some facts and stop bashing people that don't agree with you.

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot said...

Just who did we bash ??

New Hartford, N.Y. Online said...

Oh...just everyone who disagrees with you as well as the Oneida County 911 dispatchers.

Supervisor Tyksinski is correct in saying that the people who took out the ad owe the County dispatchers an apology. You lose credibility when you do try to stretch the truth to justify your position. People can see right through the baloney...

Anonymous said...

the ad never said 1 bad thing about the county dispatchers.

Anonymous said...

"The ad in the paper is the truth as we see it..."

At least you're willing to admit the lies in the ad are not the real facts gleaned from actual documents. Perhaps if you had specific facts on your side the intelligent citizens of new hartford would actually pay more attention to your crybaby scare tactics. They know better than that. But you are entitle to protect your fiefdom, just stop with the scare tactics.

Anonymous said...

Many people are defending the dispatchers by referring to what a great job they do and how qualified they are. If that's true they shouldn't have any problem finding a new job. If not, perhaps they should make themselves more marketable. All the people defending them should form a charity and take collections to support the 911 call center - however, usually these people prefer to talk and not actually put their money where their mouth is.... Let me guess, Whisky Tango would prefer Johnnie Walker in lie of a donation?

Anonymous said...

"Nobody cared when I lost my job, I didn't take out an ad , I didn't give up. I kept going and it worked out for the best. Quit crying and learn to move on. When one door closes you have to open a few more."

My Hero (Rocky Theme in Background)

No Not the Rocky Theme, it's actually the Fat lady starting to sing, the Party's Over !!!! Signed Your Hero.